Victoria Liantonio – THATCamp DC 2017 http://dc2017.thatcamp.org Making History Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:57:54 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.12 http://dc2017.thatcamp.org/files/2017/02/PROV_1617_2_THATCamp_Univ-calendarDrupal-Promo_220x220_v2_Option-2-150x150.jpg Victoria Liantonio – THATCamp DC 2017 http://dc2017.thatcamp.org 32 32 How to Connect Global Communities Online Around History http://dc2017.thatcamp.org/2017/03/25/how-to-connect-global-communities-online-around-history/ Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:25:26 +0000 http://dc2017.thatcamp.org/?p=273 Continue reading ]]>

How to Connect Global Communities Online Around History

  • AJ- Purpose to build a platform/ find some way that they can learn from one another
    • Presently working on project about Frederick Douglas for Bicentennial events
    • Trying to figure out how social media platforms work together
    • How does this work behaviorally? Do you need a website before you have a social media presence, or can you build presence on social media
  • Patrick- there is a paradoxical trap worried about
    • All of these sites and groups would be in their own solis and starting another one runs the danger of creating more of the same trap
    • Looking at aggregation tools, making it all about the aggregation
    • To make sure the primary mission is doing the aggregating, not adding another site.
  • AJ- original idea is aggregation
    • Other people said they needed to have an event that this will take off
    • Place the reading in a place where passersby will stop and be able to take part in the meeting
    • Hopefully, the one event will interest others, ways to combine
    • Are there specific places for aggregation
  • Patrick
    • Zotero can be used for aggregation, maybe create a Zotero group where, when people see these events, they can share them.
  • Jen
    • The issue with the platform can depend on who you want to reach
  • David
    • Finding some way of you not having to do that labor or going out and finding these events
    • Building a site that has some time of form capability (possibly wordpress)
    • A place for “Do you have a or know of a Douglas event? Enter it here”
    • No Anthologize
    • Press Forward as a platform
    • WordPress is decent at RSS
  • Patrick
    • The utility of facebook/twitter is to make people aware of and get them to the aggregator site
  • Jen
    • Platform infrastructure, but also the reason why they should contribute.
      • A newsletter, other things to keep people informed and share the information.
  • AJ- what an RSS feed is? Is it similar to a google alert?
  • David
    • Need to manually set up the sites you want to monitor and what you want to know what its for
  • Patrick
    • Press Forward manages these feeds.
      • Helps you sort through the different information in the site.
    • RSS is a format for machine readable versions of a website
      • Sharing content that the machines can do in the background
  • Jen- what is the overall strategy
  • AJ
    • Success would be our project emerging as the place of aggregation for all things Douglas.
    • Create a group of Douglas interest
    • Hoping that is we can establish a beachhead so that when you do Douglas everything
  • Jen- is GW putting funds into it to help sustain?
  • AJ- no, but there is a possibility
    • There was a lot of interest, but the kind of “call me when you get something starting?”
  • Jen- do you want to bring people who know and want to connect Douglas more tightly or reach out to people who don’t know much about Douglas?
  • AJ- I wanted to do both
    • The more of the site has thing happening in different places, the larger the audience it can draw.
    • Way for Douglas interest people to see what other Douglas interest people are doing.
    • Black Lives Matter was a way of connecting people who combined and movement building through smart use of Twitter and other virtual connectors.
  • David
    • Lincoln Bicentennial Committee may be a more useful connection to Douglas bicentennial
  • AJ
    • Lincoln Bicentennial Commission was created by the president, had government funding and support.
    • Douglas is a reputation washer
      • People want to be involved, but may do other things in Douglas’s name.
      • Doesn’t want to go to the politicians yet
    • Thought “when I have an ask that big layers of government can do that we can’t do, then we will ask them”
    • If we are the education people, the park service, etc., the politician would come to us as the people to partner with.
    • Lincoln was defined by government sponsorship and private money, my vision is a democratic ones.
      • People have said that they will provide money if they can control the site.
      • Wanted to build something to be that people would provide funding, but be one of many.
  • Jen
    • This is a maintenance issue.
    • Reach out to teachers, state historical groups, just so they know about it, even if they can’t fund it.
    • It’s one thing to build it, but it’s another to have people coming back to it.
  • AJ
    • Has some networks with the Smithsonian, Parks Service, etc.
    • It’s the order of steps, don’t know how this will be maintained
    • This is the first phase
    • Had hoped that as we become the place where you can find the event information, then the people who fund them will support.
  • Patrick- the resources are more about people then the money
  • David
    • Thinking of this infrastructure, decide what you want to do best, the one goal
      • If the goal is to be the aggregator, focus on that, to connect the people doing these events and the people who want to participate.
  • AJ
    • That was the idea, names the “Douglas Bicentennial Community,” but hasn’t used the word “aggregation”
  • Patrick
    • Community says to me that it’s about connections and conversation
    • Aggregator say that you provide and combine the information
    • “What’s the one thing?” is super important because you can slip back in forth in what you want to do.  
    • The aggregation can be the first demonstration of usefulness, then maybe build on around the edges can bring in the communication.
  • AJ
    • Wants to pull in the art angle
    • There are lots of other groups doing the education work, i thought bringing them together to show that Douglas is bigger than the classroom.
    • This could serve the teaching mission, what the past has to teach the present
    • Wants to showcase Douglas’s presence and how it lives on.
      • Sees these goals at combined and not separated.
    • Most things that people see will be either partisan or for-profit, that or a million tiny things that are harder for people to learn about
  • Jen
    • recommendation is to design a beachhead to allow people to find you
    • get started with the open materials
    • can always change it
  • AJ
    • Has the website, but it’s password protected because it looks like a third grader built it and was afraid that the website would not look like a viable place
      • Interns presently working on making it better
    • Will be pitching again to the DC Douglas Interest
  • Patrick
    • It’s going to be a while that you are on the first page of google results
    • If you open it, people won’t really be finding it, except google.
      • By opening it, it allows google to become familiar with the content and things so they come up on search engine people.
  • Jen
    • Build your ally base (state humanities, smaller groups)
    • Do a soft launch, so other people can possible help.
  • David
    • Talk to ASLH, who is an aggregator of the smaller places, and they could probably help.
      • Seems that you are focused on the smaller, local historical societies.
      • Smithsonian and Parks Service doesn’t need the extra exposure.
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Digital Training for Librarians and Digital Library Support-11:30 Session http://dc2017.thatcamp.org/2017/03/25/digital-training-for-librarians-and-digital-library-support-1130-session/ Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:24:23 +0000 http://dc2017.thatcamp.org/?p=271 Continue reading ]]>

Resilient Networks Projects

  • How to support digital humanities projects for places that don’t have digital humanities center
  • Wanted to hear everybody’s responses
  • How can people start/realize digital humanities project
  • A Digital Humanities Project:
    • can be many things
    • the kind Amanda is most familiar with is by putting humanities information online.
    • making searchable databases online of historical documents/images
      • WhatAmericaAte.com– created at a digital humanities center- just launched out of Matrix at Michigan State University
        • they had this content, made is searchable and available
        • they combined libraries, scholarship, and digital humanities center
  • How can these projects last without being grant funded?
    • Digital humanities center and library as the same space, doesn’t really need a center.
      • Saying ejournals versus journals- they are the same thing.
      • Keeping them together can help the technological people and the content people collaborate.
    • Raises the Question: we don’t only do all humanities, how can we combine them and put them in the box?
    • Humanities- we always need to ask for money
    • Digital Humanities because a lot of humanists need help with the technology.
      • Does the library support the digital humanities center or does the digital humanities center support itself?
      • Specialized skills needed for humanities
      • Reference librarians can guide, even if they aren’t an expert
  • Why the humanities particularly?
    • Difficulties with The idea of “the Library is the Humanities Lab” as a substitute for the scientific labs
      • Engineers, sciences, etc have a lab, humanists have never worked that way
        • Humanists work on their own, in the stacks
        • Technological collaboration wasn’t as much a thing in the humanities in the past.
      • Library is more “come to me and I can help you find something”
      • Digital Humanities “we want to do this/make this/etc.”
        • GMU- the center has been separate from the library and history.
        • Librarians can have people come give the humanities people the workshop
        • The case for digital humanities hasn’t been made yet.
    • Digital Humanities Center could be called Digital Scholarship Center- it isn’t just the humanities that centers support
    • The Value of Digital Humanities
      • Transcription is a big project in the digital humanities
        • People don’t realize that search engines need text to search something
    • The Negatives of Library intrinsically connected to Digital Humanities
      • Having support from the library focused on the digital humanities
        • There is a lot of money, time, and people needed for DH
      • Library needs be there for support to help researchers find things
      • Cost
        • The more information, the harder it will be to sustain
        • Libraries would need to consider divide costs
        • In a 40 hour work week, can put X documents online OR we can help someone do their research project.
          • Trying to figure out how to make the work “good enough”
      • Sustainability
        • Funders are worried about funding these projects that are then done/away
        • If in 5 years, no one is looking at it, you need to update it
      • Labor
        • Mellon foundation is using grant trying to find an alternative to digital humanities centers
        • Having the people say, “we can’t give you a beautiful website, but we can get the information on there.”
  • What should we be doing locally and what should we be doing collectively?
    • “My library has to have everything my users need” – it can’t be done
    • Expertise training
      • Consortial efforts to make it
      • Creating a bare minimum of common knowledge
    • Finding Aids and Catalogued
      • Finding aids are collection guides, not item levels
        • Large amount of description in the scope
        • Teaching finding aids is difficult
        • A lot of people can’t use the finding aids
  • Back to “What is a Digital Humanities Project”
    • Once you have digitized things and put it on line, there is so much more you can do with it (mapping, text analysis, etc).
    • “Digital Humanities” is a term that students don’t need to know, but the professionals do.
      • Should know about digital tools, but DH is the inside talk.
  • What is in scope for libraries in the DH space and what is not in scope for libraries in DH?
    • In Libraries- should be making it discoverable, having collections, etc.
    • The analytical side should not be in scope of library/part of library’s focus
    • Similar to a writing center:
      • you can reside here, but there are specific people who work within that center.
      • not focus on transfer of resources into digital scholarship.
    • Library- needs to limit their scope of what they can do/support
      • Not everyone can do everything,
    • Some libraries feel the need to save things because no one else will
    • Encouraging libraries to not support things forever, but giving it a specific amount of time.
      • The book- you write it and you publish it, book preservation is covered by the library, but they are used to that preservation.
      • The digital project- goes out of date, the look needs to be updated, doesn’t need to be saved forever.
  • “You put it online, they will come”
    • A little bit of that, but it takes large amount of labor and time to get people to see it come up.
  • Back to the Library’s role in analysis
    • It is not in their scope to conduct analysis, but it is important for them to enable analysis.
      • A commons where researchers from multiple groups can come together to learn about the basic tools.
    • There is an issue of “non-consumptive research”
      • Non-consumptive research- automated analysis of big data sets
        • You’re not reading a million books, consuming all of the information.
      • A lot of for-profit databases are selling this as a service
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